These are a brand new release that are estimated to start arriving March 15th (allocated by order date). These scopes have the 640 core and a 2-8x magnification giving a wide field of view and as good of an image as the super hogster. They are $3795 with the normal mount or $3995 with the LaRue Mount. The $300 pre-order comes out of the total price so once they arrive the amount due will be $3495 or $3695 (w/ LaRue).